Just passing along my experience, for what it’s worth.
I am 67. My wife is 66. We are both very healthy. We are both unjabbed. She has had Covid 3 times. January 2020, after we spent a full day at a small Museum with 3 bus loads of Chinese tourists from, wait for it, Wuhan. You could not make it up. 5 days later she became very sick, with all of the symptoms which later became associated with Covid. Our assumption is that this was the original strain. She recovered at home, it took 45 days.
The 2nd time was in November 2021 following a 3 day visit to a hospice facility where my father was in his final days of stage 4 bone cancer, which manifested only after he got jabbed. 6 months from the 2nd jab to death. We treated her with the FLCC protocol, including Ivermectin. But we got started late, due to being on the road and although she was rid of the Covid symptoms within a few days, her O2 levels would not recover. She ended up in the hospital for 3 days with pneumonia, oxygen, IV antibiotics, and prednisone which did the trick. It’s pretty clear that even with the late start, what we did at home kept her from a much longer and potentially deadly hospital stay. She refused Remdesivir which did not go over well with the hospital. Thankfully we were in a small town in a red southern state and there was no
pressure to take it. Recovery was slow. Her discharge papers indicated a positive Covid test for Delta variant at 30 cycles
The 3rd time was recent, following a flight from Montana to MI. Packed plane with what she says we’re “a lot of obviously sick” people. 4 days after the flight she got all of the Omicron symptoms. She had been on prophylaxis of Quercetin, D, K2, C, and HCQ. We treated her at home with HCQ, doubled up on everything, added NAC, an antibiotic and Black Seed Cumin Oil. Fever abated after 24 hours. Overall improvement began after 72 hours. She was at 75% after 96 hours and continues to improve.
Two points to make. First, early treatment clearly works and being totally prepared and having access to it immediately made all the difference this time. We also had Ivermectin on standby if there was no improvement in 72 hours. Thankfully we did not need it. Second, based on our experience I thoroughly question the “long lasting, durable immunity” from prior natural infections. Sure, it’s anecdotal and just one case. But as far as I am concerned it does not exist.
Lastly, despite close contact with her during all three episodes (we live on a 35 ft sailboat and hence there is no possibility of me not getting exposed) I have never gotten sick. I have been on a fairly aggressive prophylaxis regime since February 2020. Maybe it’s due to that. Or maybe I’m one of the small percentage of people who are just immune. It’s likely we will never know.
Some writers are convinced that the variants of the original Wuhan virus are not, in fact, emerging variants produced by vaccination pressure to mutate, but are actually other human-engineered viruses. I cannot recall which writers, but some evidence offered is that « omicron » is too many evolutionary steps away from Wu 1 to have arisen naturally in the time that passed between the two. If this is true, this could explain how one who had Covid once would not have protective antibodies to defeat other versions of Covid, because the other versions are actually distinct diseases. Please tell me where I am going wrong here.
I have read of people having Covid multiple times, usually in the context of after two or three vaccines. I wonder what the incidence is of unvaccinated people getting Covid repeatedly.
Mathew Crawford maybe? I would have to go back and look. But I also recall someone posing a theory that Omicron has actually been circulating since 2018 or something. And that the genome sequence could not have evolved from the original strain. We were in New Bern NC when I first read that theory and that would have been last January or February.
YES! Mathew Crawford did discuss that possibility. Date listed was January 20! I believe someone else thought similarly because of the disparate places omicron popped up nearly simultaneously.
(Off topic: Did you note a CT 42 sailboat in New Bern, name of Pleiades?)
My daughter is unvaxxed and had COVID twice, 18 months apart--presumably original strain in December of 2020 and then Omi last summer. She was tested both times and had symptoms both times. Also recovered quickly and easily both times, so they seem to be different enough that even a young, healthy person could develop both.
I too unjabbed and 60 have had covid twice. Alpha & Omicron based on timing. Alpha was a bitch! Omi a 4 day headache and cold. My theory is natural immunity will keep me from getting either of those past strains, but I will probably get future strains. Logic says we’ll have some protection going forward from this past exposure. And being unjabbed better immune function in general than the jabbed. I guess time will tell.
Thx for sharing your experience, and I wish a full recovery to your wife and No More Covid.
Yeah, I, too, question the “durable naturally acquired” immunity. I had it twice, six months apart, while my family never got it 2nd time, and we were never isolated. Fortunately, my symptoms were very mild, life went ordinary, and none of my regular activities were affected.
Like you, I would love to understand how & why such a variance of symptoms, transmission, and infection.
None of us took the jab & never will. We have no health issues, no medication, and we are in our late 40s with young kids in school.
True dat. At over 60, the immune system is declining naturally. Different rates of decline for different people. There are other major factors. Just as vitamin D levels are a huge factor, blood sugar levels and sugar processing and insulin resistance are huge. Someone that is pre-diabetic and /or eats a lot of sugar and starch, doesn't pause from eating and has some weight vs someone that has a regular fasting cycle is more at risk. So much so that FLCCC and other protocols finally put suggestions in for curbing sugar and starches during the illness and even after, if recovery is slow. Most people are't measuring their blood sugar and may not even be aware they have a problem.
Great advice about reducing sugar intake. I remember reading somewhere that sugar puts your white blood cells ‘in a coma’, where they can’t do their job of fighting invaders. 🦠
You are amazed that I suspect lies? In this day and age? What, are you 5 years old? And I have shared my experience, which is very similar to most other unvaccinated people and vastly different from the STORY that YOU told us!
I don't believe they got infected with all the variants so severely. And him saying that he thinks there is no such thing as lasting immunity makes me think it's someone with an agenda. I know nobody with a history like his. And practically all the people I surround myself with now are unjabbed, without reinfections, in all ages, don't wear masks, don't isolate, unafraid. That story and especially the conclusion of no immunity is not believable. By the way: With a functioning mucosal immunity, you don't make antibodies at all.
Well I agree with all you say. The only references I saw to severe infections were at the very start on a site called Mumsnet, where folk would post things like 'day 42 and still burning up'. We have all had it, unjabbed, and it was like a cold or a flu. None of us shelter in place and are all well. (We do feel the effects of what I think must be shedding but take one Ivermectin dose to see that off).
I do hear a lot of folk complaining of 'long covid' but I think, as covid wiped out the flu, that long covid is replacing fybromyalgia and similar illnesses of unknown origin.
I do know however, anecdotally, but not 'of persons unknown' of 8 deaths - vaxed friends of vaxed relations, and vaxed friends of vaxed friends - who have died suddenly of unknown cause or quickly of a previously undiagnosed cancer. Several jabbed relatives and friends are ill and injured. Of course I stay schtum but I think they know. I have been able to have some sort of dialogue with my brother - fully jabbed and now persistently not able to recover from things like burns, or colds - and my sister - minimally jabbed (1) and a very spiritual mind-over-matter type. Both are beginning to question.
We have what I'd call a normal immune response to this new biological pest. We're both 66 and unjabbed. Hubby has had two rounds of COVID and I've had two or possibly three rounds. He got sick in March 2020 after exposure to an international group. It lingered as a cold/cough but wasn't really serious. He had lingering eye irritation from it. I had some GI symptoms for several days. It might have been related - or not. I was already taking extra vitamin D by then. We assume that was the alpha variant.
In March 2021 I was exposed in a group setting. The woman next to me was in the hospital for 5 weeks with COVID. I was taking Vitamin D, quercitin, zinc, vitamin C and NAC by then. It was a mild disease. I took in a five-mile hike halfway through with no problem. I had some dizziness, low-grade fever, and headaches but no respiratory issues or cough. My husband was exposed to me but the only effect on him was eye irritation. We suspect he's sensitive to shedding of spike proteins, as this has happened several times when he's been exposed to sick or recently jabbed people. We assume this was beta or delta variant.
In December 2021, our son brought home Omicron to share with us. He works in a hospital with mandated jabs. He's had two. All his co-workers were getting COVID. He was tested at work which confirmed COVID and he was sent home for 10 days. We both had it within days of him and were mildly ill - a minor cold. He was much sicker with lingering cough and poor sleep.
We continue to take our supplements. I take more than my husband, but we've both stayed well. I expect that new variants may make us ill, but I also expect that we'll have decent resistance.
My 97 year old mother is unjabbed. She had COVID in March (omicron, we assume). She beat it back with rest, chicken soup and tea. She was subsequently in the hospital for hip surgery and had confirmed antibodies for spike protein and the virus itself, so we know she's defeated it as well. The hospital made her wait for discharge to rehab because she tested positive for COVID, but we assume it was a lingering positive result from her recent bout. She remained well.
Add nasal saline rinse to your mix if not already. CoQ10 and Bifidobacterium might be good moves, too.
We just bought a sailboat, but it will only be used for short term escapes from the chaotic mainland (nice that you have more permanent distancing capabilities… Hopefully someplace warm!)
I’m glad she pulled through it, sir. It’s a remarkable story. I’m unjabbed myself, as is my husband and I’ve had a couple of two day “fatigue/ am I getting a cough?”experiences in the entire two and a half years that both resolved so quickly, I wasn’t even sure I was sick. I was on weekly prophylaxis for nearly two years, but now, I just treat if I’ve been in a large crowd indoors. Take the usual supplements FLCCC recommends, do nasal lavage and gargles with diluted iodine, have robust vitamin D serum levels. Husband never even puny for a day and we are both in our mid 60s. Life is a mystery, wrapped in an enigma. Really glad you two are doing well now. Thank you for sharing your story.
My wife and I (66 and 67 healthy, and unvaccinated to this day).
We became ill just a couple hours apart, on our drive back to Fort Worth from visiting family in San Diego in first week of January 2020.
Our Daughter in law had what we thought was a cold, but had recently visited family in a nursing home in San Diego, so we think it is how we picked it up.
We had all the Covid symptoms, my wife more so with headache/ taste/smell, and myself, more with the feeling of not getting enough air, to the extent that I apparently went to town and bought a vaporizer, and have no memory of having done so, anyway, it was on my nightstand when I came out of it. At that time, we assumed that it was the flu.
We were quite ill, and down for 7-10 days, I don’t recall much of it.
As time went on, and more info came out, we assumed we had the original strain, and I began researching and eventually started the vitamin prorocals adding to them as information came out.
Over the next year, many freinds were lining up and getting shots and boosted and were so fearful of illness.
My wife and I were fearful as well, but for a different reason, we feared having to go to the hospital for any reason. We beleive that if I had gone in when sick in 2020, I may have been put on a vent, because I think I had very low 02 sats.
Two years after the first go around, in January 2022, my wife came down with a fever and tested positive with home test kit.
By this time, we were confident in our approach and upped all of her doses of Zinc, D, C, Quercitin, NAC, and started her on Ivermectin, and also did the same for myself because I expected to catch it from her.
She was feeling 90% improved in 72 hours, just as I began to get sick and developed fever. I was 90% better in 24 hours, I assume because I had a three day jump with treatment.
In our circle of freinds and family, and freinds of family, we have seen a huge increase of an array of illnesses of the vaccinated in last few months.
2 strokes, 1 death from heart failure, 1 sudden onset of arythmia, 4 with various heart rithym irregularities, and a few more that just seem to be going to the doctor due to unexplained, and un diagnosed issues of different kinds.
Keep in mind, these were freinds that were at so called “increased risk” because of prior health issues.
My son, who is a fire/medic, said he gets a lot of overtime, because so many vaccinated coworkers are calling in sick. My son is unvaccinated and is exposed constantly, never been sick.
These idiot researchers should be studying people like him, rather than pushing this dangerous shot on a “one size fits all” basis to everyone over 6 months of age.
I had it 3 times. Unjabbed. Only was bad once with terrible headaches. Never complications. Always improved by quercetin zinc D. Ivermectin and saline neti pot with bad bout. Pretty solidly immune now but for me, zinc is very effective. Each time, took 3 weeks to feel 100%.
Sorry to hear about her experiences. I’ve got two friends in their 60’s who are all aboard the vax train (4 shots each) and each have had COVID 3 times. There’s a lot about human biology and immune response that we don’t know, but it certainly appears some folks are unfortunately much more prone to illness.
I've also had covid twice. Omicron both times, about 6 months apart. The second time was extremely mild.....only about 12 hours of symptoms. I used to think that durable immunity was a thing, but now I know better.
No one that I know who has had Covid was given a definitive answer as to which version it was ( other than very early in 2020, when it was a new disease).
I appreciate very much our Substack warriors and COVID Scientists and MD's that are helping us along the way - no matter how dire their predictions. Despite saying that - I am left so unsettled by articles like this. It keeps me up at night - so worried. I am praying that Geert's prognostications do not come to light. Thank you Mary Beth. This is a tough read. I appreciate that you provided some balance. I am finding it impossible to have any faith in modern medicine anymore.
Yes, even when they disagree there is great value in the discussion. We're in uncharted territory with mRNA injections. No one knows exactly how people, with the variations of health and lifestyle among them, will react to viruses after this. We'll know more in a few months but in the meantime, do all you can to improve your chances of health and keep your mind calm. Chronic fear and anxiety will drive disease by interfering with the immune system. The past can't be changed but we can be proactive about our future.
Very well written, sourced and explained! I've heard lots of his interviews, read, re-read (then read again) his work. I can tell his sincerity and I take his word very seriously...perhaps the universe will take care of the virus itself but I have to say, Geert warned us about things like avian flu, monkey pox, polio and other weird abnormalities happening as a result of mass vaxxing. I wasn't sure at the time but go back and look at what he said, months before everyone else and he's been accurate.
Will this catastrophe rear its ugly viral head?...Don't know but I do know that I'm listening to Geert very carefully and respect, appreciate his work and am planning ahead. He is not working for any company, group, or selling a book and has everything to lose. He actually does all of his own research himself and checks everything out before he speaks. In other words, he is doing his homework and like Jessica Rose, he does the actually scientific research. His track record has been better than everyone else in virology, and just like we value Marik, Kory, Lawrie, Weinstein and Kirsch for their expertise in their respective fields, I have the utmost respect and admiration for Geert. If the virus mutations don't manifest exactly as he predicted, I will thank God for the mercy and thank Geert for having the courage to speak up and prepare me. See one of his interviews 6 months ago and judge for yourself https://youtu.be/F530dxcB6_s and Here is another newer one https://thenewamerican.com/dr-geert-vanden-bossche-covid-infection-disease-to-aggravate-in-vaccinated/
I too have followed Geert and agree with all you have said. It fills me with dread and it is very hard to believe but so far, he has been correct in his predictions, only as he admits, the timing may have been off at times. I’m presently watching people I love being diagnosed with heart problems, cancers, strokes etc. and have heard of more people that I know dying suddenly or after a short illness in these last months than in any other time in my life (69 yrs)!
I’m praying that this is a ‘first’ that it will not happen as he predicts but at the same time, trying to prepare if it does. 🙏😢
I agree with you. The omni timing prediction was off but then this is a virus circulating around the world with many variables so ETA is secondary to me. Its like trying to predict a hurricane with 100% accuracy when no one knows mother natures intent....we can only get 80-90% that its coming just not sure of exact cone of location. I don't like bad news either or end of times warnings either and I'm old enough to have seen many in my time. I too thought it was over and he just had some data points that changed and we were out of the woods, but then I saw all the respiratory illness at childrens hospitals, weird abnormalities in the livestock world, polio, MP, cancer rates rocketing along with other immune conditions worsening in highly vaxxed countries and remembered what he said. Like I said, I give him utmost respect and take it seriously because he does the peer reviewed homework himself to connect the dots, has the street creed, both as a vet and virologist to know what he's talking about, is NOT a flamethrower looking for headlines or benefiting financially like a Scott Gottlieb and others. Watch his facial expressions on his interviews...you can see his pain when he says what he says. He believes what his research is saying and this isn't binary, its more nuanced as its a virus moving around the world thru air. Even if he's 70% right and a new virus is not apocalyptic, it still means lots of pain and thats good enough for me to take heed. On top of that the more they try and censor him, that too signals the other side is afraid of him. Think about it....no one censors the crazy man on the street yelling the end is near...they let them hang themselves with their own rope so to speak. Everyone we follow whose been censored must have a point we should consider for if they are truly crazy...no one would dare to shut them up. Buckle up just in case
if some respected scientist predicts that a specific asteroid will crash on earth and destroy it, I never would think his calculations are wrong. I think that NOBODY ELSE MADE THE NUMBERS (connected the dots) and worked to evaluate the risks of a human conducted viral catastrophe.
Geer didn't say there is nothing to do. He is recommending ivm and hcq to kill of the virus. The FLCCC protocol says the same (plus vit d, zinc, etc). Someone is also suggesting 2 days fasting once infected to starve off the virus. What everyone agrees is no more shots.
Mary Beth Pfeiffer (MBF) did indeed interview me about my opinion on the evolution of the pandemic. Although I’ve learned a lot about mainstream journalists lately (she used to be one of them but has, in the meantime, retired), I was still naïve enough to not have asked her in advance about her intentions. It was only when she started pressuring me with text messages to read, as soon as possible, her first draft, that I realized she wanted to contrast my viewpoints to those of other scientists in order “to add some balance and perspective” to mine, as she put it. Unfortunately, none of the other scientists and medical doctors she interviewed are knowledgeable in this field. None of them has in-depth experience in virology, immunology, let alone vaccinology.
Some of the interviewees even go so far as to believe that more deadly viruses will not spread because this would prevent them from surviving and that, therefore, more infectious and harmless viruses (like the first Omicron variants) would always outcompete more harmful variants. Of course, one should know better as viruses have no brains and hence, no strategy. Rather than relying on the “cleverness” of the virus, these scientists should look at what is currently happening with avian influenza virus, for example. The harsh realities we’re currently facing with avian flu virus will hopefully show them how a highly infectious virus has become increasingly lethal to the host population and help them change their mind. Others simply labeled my genuine concern as scaremongering, without any further explanation. I don’t know whether this is very helpful. Even though Omicron has been rather mild so far, they seem to be completely unaware of how the virus is evolving behind the curtains.
Evolutionary viral dynamics in host populations are determined by the complex interplay between viral infectiousness and the immune response of the host population, an interplay which is not understood by the people MBF interviewed. I shared with MBF that I am always open to a scientific debate and critiques, provided they come from people who can scientifically justify their reasoning instead of making blanket statements. That’s why I ultimately referred MBF to John Heathco. John is the opposite example of a phenomenon the medical and scientific community is currently suffering from: Intellectual laziness. Many colleagues receive my detailed scientific explanations supporting my predictions, but they prefer to rely on their old beliefs rather than read my articles. John is one of the very few exceptions. Although he’s neither a medical doctor nor trained in Life Sciences, he has a very critical mind and spent time and energy to understand my insights and ask the right questions. When it comes to understanding the evolutionary dynamics of this pandemic, I therefore consider him much more knowledgeable than many frontline fighters who spend more and more time on criticizing the system but don’t understand that this battle can never, in any case, be won by manmade interventions.
Sharing various viewpoints of those who have no experience with pandemics and the complex virological and immunological intricacies involved is only raising more needless confusion and questions about the current narrative. We are highly in need of journalists who understand the science. MBF clearly does not. She is more interested in meeting the deadline for a new article than in assuring the accuracy of its content. Whichever scientists will be proven right or wrong doesn’t matter for her reputation, as her article lends credibility to both.
It is true that my scientific analysis does not cast a bright light on the outcome of this pandemic. That’s definitely also the reason why I completely disapprove and did not authorize MBF to publish pictures of me smiling in a context of sobering predictions. MBF never asked permission to publicize photos of me in an article. Instead, she asked if she could make a photo just as a “souvenir”, which I approved. Since I detected several flaws in MBF’s wording of my statements, I had agreed to double-check the draft she sent, but clearly told her that I would need some more time as I was on a busy travel schedule. And that, in case she couldn’t wait, I would not give her permission to quote me and publish the article unless she would refrain from publishing photos or footage, and explicitly specify that the statements she would be attributing to me were not my own but were her words, put in my mouth which had not been verified by me. All of this is clearly documented in our exchanges on social media. Unfortunately, being trained and having worked too long in the mainstream media, MBF went on and shamelessly ignored my comments and published her article before I had even finished reading the draft she sent.
You are my intellectual hero, how much I enjoy the intricacies of science, and you are serving the whole mankind, in many baby steps and some huge steps, wise lessons.SUPERB pandemic logic lessons. No one can refute you, because is logic which speaks by your mouth.
Vaccine injury is now being hidden within long covid figures. Most, but not all, long covid sufferers are vaccinated and are even persuaded to get booster shots to ease long covid symptoms. So we cannot differentiate between long covid and vaccine injury.
Definitely a vagus nerve connection with me (see my attached article), but I am guessing that stimulation is not going to be enough. I have read one article that talked about the vagus nerve having ACE2 receptors to which the spike protein is able to attach, and from there spread to all the organ systems in the body. I think that is what happened to me (article attached). But I have been looking for physical interventions with little success. I read one article about B12 feeding the vagus nerve but nothing else was mentioned, and nothing about removing the spike from the ACE2 receptors of the vagus nerve. Somehow I doubt that, in this case, stimulation alone is enough. The B12 is controlling the nighttime neuropathy in my legs that came on after covid, so for that alone I will continue taking it.
Also since covid, my flight/fight response has gone through the roof, with huge adrenaline dumps at the merest thought of bloody injury or hypodermic needles. I also read somewhere that there is no point putting your foot on the brakes (the parasympathetic system) if you still have your foot on the accelerator (the sympathetic system). Meaning I have to somehow slow these involuntary adrenaline dumps before there is any point in working on the vagus nerve.
I will value what you have to say in relation to long covid. I know the vagus nerve is heavily implicated all round, just not sure how to solve it.
My understanding has moved on from where it was a few months back, before I realised I had long covid, but this article explains how I came to understand how significant the vagus nerve was for my bout of covid.
I don't have long covid but long other-stuff. 15 minutes of vagus nerve stimulation with a TENS unit daily has helped a lot. FYI, I think I might have a viral infection in my vagus nerve. Electrical stimulation doesn't just work emotionally, it might kill off germs. I just demonstrated the TENS unit in a yoga class I taught. I'll cut the video out and post it on my Substack in the next few days.
I am unvaxxed and had a mild form of LC (anosmia and fatigue but fortunately no nervous system problems) following (presumably) Delta, from which I fully recovered after about 6 months. This is what I did: lost a few pounds to get to my ideal healthy weight, took multivitamins, probiotics, nattokinase, quercetin, olive leaf extract, NAC, fish oil, moderate exercise (yoga and walking), extra sleep, fully wholefood diet, cut out all my vices especially alcohol and sugar. I can't say whether those things helped or I just got lucky. I am in my 50s and am in great shape now. I also had omicron later, virtually asymptomatic, and recovered in 2 days with no LC. Actually everyone I know with LC is also recovered (the milder cases) or improving (the more severe ones) - one person with severe, long-lasting LC has had anticoagulant therapy plus various herbal supplements - again it's impossible to tell what helped but she is 90% better. I hope this helps and best wishes for your recovery.
Thanks for putting all this info together so expertly. The more information one has, the better one can plan and manage. I appreciate all of the links.
Was following early on and when I first heard the vaccine might be pushing the virus to mutate, I thought how living organisms want to live and those that are successful are very small and can mutate much more rapidly than might our immune system. I thought trying to kill a virus in the way that was done may make it fight back, so to speak. Not a scientist, and know but little. We've been defended in our own human biomes that contain so many other living organisms inside our bodies and those are so closely connected to healthy soils and our immune systems. Healthy soils are our first defender against foreign and natural viral pathogens. But we've put murdering toxic chemicals on our soils so they no longer work to aid us. Why would our bodies need the Spike protein of a GOF virus, unless and indeed it was created in a lab to kill the protections our bodies are built with. So many died not because of the virus, but because of a virus that could take advantage of our poor diet, the cokeacolas of the world, of too much sugar and not enough greens from fully healthy soils, where Ivermectin came from. God bless all the organisms in healthy soils and may god direct those who grow for us and the world with the knowledge they need that their governments deny. As a rebel farmer said, "I do not need to feed the world. I need to feed my community." If you consider your community the whole world and you want to save it, all our farmers must fight against an idea about feeding the world poisoned food that will not help their bodies resist anything unleashed on the world. The point here is that soils that use tons of input are not healthy, do not contain the nutrients we need to bolster our immune systems and protect us from what is being unleashed on us now by whatever means and for whatever reasons.
Just did a little searching and found this from Ethical Skeptic, October 18th.
"The BQ.1 and BQ.1.1 variants appeared inside Nowcast, just as was rumored.
What they did not tell you, was that the arrival of this rise in cases - is commensurate with a 22% rise in positivity among those \/'d less than 3 months ago.
Pathologists in Germany have now determined definitively that it is the body's massive immune response to the injected spike-protein production machine via the jabs that is killing hundreds of thousands of people. There is now a predicted slow die-off of virtually anyone who was vaccinated by the same mechanisms of cellular destruction. Two of the most recent presentations can be seen here:
My experience...I am a 64 year old healthy and fit male. I contracted COVID, presumably Delta in Aug 2021. Hit me for about 8 days with low grade fever, mild upper respiratory symptoms, some warping of taste and severe fatigue. I took ivermectin, hydroxychloroquine, Quercetin, zinc, D, C. The sickness was very similar to when I got mono in my early 30’s. Less of a hammer than times where I got the flu, but I haven’t had the flu in at least 10 years. In fact, it just seems like I don’t get sick anymore. Recovery was quick after the fever lifted.
My wife then got hit, presumably with Omicron in Jan 22 after flying on a plane. She was down for the count a shorter duration with very bad headache and high fatigue. I actually slept in the same bed with her. Result for me? Maybe felt like I was fighting something off for a 24 hr period and then nothing. I continue to take Quercetin, 5000 IU D, 10000 IU C and zinc religiously, daily. If everyone took care of their intake and has ivermectin and HCQ on hand, this would indeed be over.
The non-neutralizing antibodies induced by the mRNA vaccines do persist and are even boosted by the immune system each time a person is confronted with reinfection. Since transmission is not prevented, and since the virus has become so infectious, there are millions of previously vaccinated people being reinfected, possibly asymptomatically, that are presenting the same immunity picture to the virus (again, involving those non-neutralizing antibodies). All of these people are hosting the random mutations that always take place during virus reproduction within our cells. Chances are, a random mutation will eventually overcome the current immunity vaccinees have to severe omicron, and then be transmitted to another previously vaccinated person presenting the same immunity picture, and then to another, and so on, until the commonly circulating omicron becomes both more infectious AND more virulent.
Just passing along my experience, for what it’s worth.
I am 67. My wife is 66. We are both very healthy. We are both unjabbed. She has had Covid 3 times. January 2020, after we spent a full day at a small Museum with 3 bus loads of Chinese tourists from, wait for it, Wuhan. You could not make it up. 5 days later she became very sick, with all of the symptoms which later became associated with Covid. Our assumption is that this was the original strain. She recovered at home, it took 45 days.
The 2nd time was in November 2021 following a 3 day visit to a hospice facility where my father was in his final days of stage 4 bone cancer, which manifested only after he got jabbed. 6 months from the 2nd jab to death. We treated her with the FLCC protocol, including Ivermectin. But we got started late, due to being on the road and although she was rid of the Covid symptoms within a few days, her O2 levels would not recover. She ended up in the hospital for 3 days with pneumonia, oxygen, IV antibiotics, and prednisone which did the trick. It’s pretty clear that even with the late start, what we did at home kept her from a much longer and potentially deadly hospital stay. She refused Remdesivir which did not go over well with the hospital. Thankfully we were in a small town in a red southern state and there was no
pressure to take it. Recovery was slow. Her discharge papers indicated a positive Covid test for Delta variant at 30 cycles
The 3rd time was recent, following a flight from Montana to MI. Packed plane with what she says we’re “a lot of obviously sick” people. 4 days after the flight she got all of the Omicron symptoms. She had been on prophylaxis of Quercetin, D, K2, C, and HCQ. We treated her at home with HCQ, doubled up on everything, added NAC, an antibiotic and Black Seed Cumin Oil. Fever abated after 24 hours. Overall improvement began after 72 hours. She was at 75% after 96 hours and continues to improve.
Two points to make. First, early treatment clearly works and being totally prepared and having access to it immediately made all the difference this time. We also had Ivermectin on standby if there was no improvement in 72 hours. Thankfully we did not need it. Second, based on our experience I thoroughly question the “long lasting, durable immunity” from prior natural infections. Sure, it’s anecdotal and just one case. But as far as I am concerned it does not exist.
Lastly, despite close contact with her during all three episodes (we live on a 35 ft sailboat and hence there is no possibility of me not getting exposed) I have never gotten sick. I have been on a fairly aggressive prophylaxis regime since February 2020. Maybe it’s due to that. Or maybe I’m one of the small percentage of people who are just immune. It’s likely we will never know.
You are missing Zinc. Zinc is a critical element of making quercetin or HCQ work.
Actually Quercetin is the ionophore for the zinc
Some writers are convinced that the variants of the original Wuhan virus are not, in fact, emerging variants produced by vaccination pressure to mutate, but are actually other human-engineered viruses. I cannot recall which writers, but some evidence offered is that « omicron » is too many evolutionary steps away from Wu 1 to have arisen naturally in the time that passed between the two. If this is true, this could explain how one who had Covid once would not have protective antibodies to defeat other versions of Covid, because the other versions are actually distinct diseases. Please tell me where I am going wrong here.
I have read of people having Covid multiple times, usually in the context of after two or three vaccines. I wonder what the incidence is of unvaccinated people getting Covid repeatedly.
Mathew Crawford maybe? I would have to go back and look. But I also recall someone posing a theory that Omicron has actually been circulating since 2018 or something. And that the genome sequence could not have evolved from the original strain. We were in New Bern NC when I first read that theory and that would have been last January or February.
One of many articles about how unusual Omicron is:
https://www.eugyppius.com/p/omicron-is-not-normal
Yes. Excellent source.
YES! Mathew Crawford did discuss that possibility. Date listed was January 20! I believe someone else thought similarly because of the disparate places omicron popped up nearly simultaneously.
(Off topic: Did you note a CT 42 sailboat in New Bern, name of Pleiades?)
I have 24 people in my circle aged 10 - 75 who are all unvaccinated and have had positive covid tests (and symptoms). None went to hospital.
So far none have had a recurrence. We all had Omicron.
Untransfected and still no covid
My daughter is unvaxxed and had COVID twice, 18 months apart--presumably original strain in December of 2020 and then Omi last summer. She was tested both times and had symptoms both times. Also recovered quickly and easily both times, so they seem to be different enough that even a young, healthy person could develop both.
My husband (in London, UK) has had it twice, but so far apart as likely to be two different variants.
I too unjabbed and 60 have had covid twice. Alpha & Omicron based on timing. Alpha was a bitch! Omi a 4 day headache and cold. My theory is natural immunity will keep me from getting either of those past strains, but I will probably get future strains. Logic says we’ll have some protection going forward from this past exposure. And being unjabbed better immune function in general than the jabbed. I guess time will tell.
Thx for sharing your experience, and I wish a full recovery to your wife and No More Covid.
Yeah, I, too, question the “durable naturally acquired” immunity. I had it twice, six months apart, while my family never got it 2nd time, and we were never isolated. Fortunately, my symptoms were very mild, life went ordinary, and none of my regular activities were affected.
Like you, I would love to understand how & why such a variance of symptoms, transmission, and infection.
None of us took the jab & never will. We have no health issues, no medication, and we are in our late 40s with young kids in school.
I would also say that many seniors have a decrease in immune function, which could be the case for the poster’s wife who had covid 3 times.
True dat. At over 60, the immune system is declining naturally. Different rates of decline for different people. There are other major factors. Just as vitamin D levels are a huge factor, blood sugar levels and sugar processing and insulin resistance are huge. Someone that is pre-diabetic and /or eats a lot of sugar and starch, doesn't pause from eating and has some weight vs someone that has a regular fasting cycle is more at risk. So much so that FLCCC and other protocols finally put suggestions in for curbing sugar and starches during the illness and even after, if recovery is slow. Most people are't measuring their blood sugar and may not even be aware they have a problem.
Great advice about reducing sugar intake. I remember reading somewhere that sugar puts your white blood cells ‘in a coma’, where they can’t do their job of fighting invaders. 🦠
I don't believe a word of what you told us here. It doesn't compare to my own experience and that of other unstabbed people that I know.
Notice it's all AI bots giving an unsolicited song-and-dance about experiences with the flu, rebranded as 'C19'.
Denial is a river and you seem to be crying one
Who, Pete? Why is he in denial? He's right.
Since all covid tests are untrustworthy, I don’t believe any of the results.
Flu or colds, anyone?
It’s amazing that because someone’s experience is different from yours that you’d effectively call them a liar. But go ahead, share your experience.
You are amazed that I suspect lies? In this day and age? What, are you 5 years old? And I have shared my experience, which is very similar to most other unvaccinated people and vastly different from the STORY that YOU told us!
What makes you not believe?
I don't believe they got infected with all the variants so severely. And him saying that he thinks there is no such thing as lasting immunity makes me think it's someone with an agenda. I know nobody with a history like his. And practically all the people I surround myself with now are unjabbed, without reinfections, in all ages, don't wear masks, don't isolate, unafraid. That story and especially the conclusion of no immunity is not believable. By the way: With a functioning mucosal immunity, you don't make antibodies at all.
Well I agree with all you say. The only references I saw to severe infections were at the very start on a site called Mumsnet, where folk would post things like 'day 42 and still burning up'. We have all had it, unjabbed, and it was like a cold or a flu. None of us shelter in place and are all well. (We do feel the effects of what I think must be shedding but take one Ivermectin dose to see that off).
I do hear a lot of folk complaining of 'long covid' but I think, as covid wiped out the flu, that long covid is replacing fybromyalgia and similar illnesses of unknown origin.
I do know however, anecdotally, but not 'of persons unknown' of 8 deaths - vaxed friends of vaxed relations, and vaxed friends of vaxed friends - who have died suddenly of unknown cause or quickly of a previously undiagnosed cancer. Several jabbed relatives and friends are ill and injured. Of course I stay schtum but I think they know. I have been able to have some sort of dialogue with my brother - fully jabbed and now persistently not able to recover from things like burns, or colds - and my sister - minimally jabbed (1) and a very spiritual mind-over-matter type. Both are beginning to question.
We have what I'd call a normal immune response to this new biological pest. We're both 66 and unjabbed. Hubby has had two rounds of COVID and I've had two or possibly three rounds. He got sick in March 2020 after exposure to an international group. It lingered as a cold/cough but wasn't really serious. He had lingering eye irritation from it. I had some GI symptoms for several days. It might have been related - or not. I was already taking extra vitamin D by then. We assume that was the alpha variant.
In March 2021 I was exposed in a group setting. The woman next to me was in the hospital for 5 weeks with COVID. I was taking Vitamin D, quercitin, zinc, vitamin C and NAC by then. It was a mild disease. I took in a five-mile hike halfway through with no problem. I had some dizziness, low-grade fever, and headaches but no respiratory issues or cough. My husband was exposed to me but the only effect on him was eye irritation. We suspect he's sensitive to shedding of spike proteins, as this has happened several times when he's been exposed to sick or recently jabbed people. We assume this was beta or delta variant.
In December 2021, our son brought home Omicron to share with us. He works in a hospital with mandated jabs. He's had two. All his co-workers were getting COVID. He was tested at work which confirmed COVID and he was sent home for 10 days. We both had it within days of him and were mildly ill - a minor cold. He was much sicker with lingering cough and poor sleep.
We continue to take our supplements. I take more than my husband, but we've both stayed well. I expect that new variants may make us ill, but I also expect that we'll have decent resistance.
My 97 year old mother is unjabbed. She had COVID in March (omicron, we assume). She beat it back with rest, chicken soup and tea. She was subsequently in the hospital for hip surgery and had confirmed antibodies for spike protein and the virus itself, so we know she's defeated it as well. The hospital made her wait for discharge to rehab because she tested positive for COVID, but we assume it was a lingering positive result from her recent bout. She remained well.
Add nasal saline rinse to your mix if not already. CoQ10 and Bifidobacterium might be good moves, too.
We just bought a sailboat, but it will only be used for short term escapes from the chaotic mainland (nice that you have more permanent distancing capabilities… Hopefully someplace warm!)
I’m glad she pulled through it, sir. It’s a remarkable story. I’m unjabbed myself, as is my husband and I’ve had a couple of two day “fatigue/ am I getting a cough?”experiences in the entire two and a half years that both resolved so quickly, I wasn’t even sure I was sick. I was on weekly prophylaxis for nearly two years, but now, I just treat if I’ve been in a large crowd indoors. Take the usual supplements FLCCC recommends, do nasal lavage and gargles with diluted iodine, have robust vitamin D serum levels. Husband never even puny for a day and we are both in our mid 60s. Life is a mystery, wrapped in an enigma. Really glad you two are doing well now. Thank you for sharing your story.
My wife and I (66 and 67 healthy, and unvaccinated to this day).
We became ill just a couple hours apart, on our drive back to Fort Worth from visiting family in San Diego in first week of January 2020.
Our Daughter in law had what we thought was a cold, but had recently visited family in a nursing home in San Diego, so we think it is how we picked it up.
We had all the Covid symptoms, my wife more so with headache/ taste/smell, and myself, more with the feeling of not getting enough air, to the extent that I apparently went to town and bought a vaporizer, and have no memory of having done so, anyway, it was on my nightstand when I came out of it. At that time, we assumed that it was the flu.
We were quite ill, and down for 7-10 days, I don’t recall much of it.
As time went on, and more info came out, we assumed we had the original strain, and I began researching and eventually started the vitamin prorocals adding to them as information came out.
Over the next year, many freinds were lining up and getting shots and boosted and were so fearful of illness.
My wife and I were fearful as well, but for a different reason, we feared having to go to the hospital for any reason. We beleive that if I had gone in when sick in 2020, I may have been put on a vent, because I think I had very low 02 sats.
Two years after the first go around, in January 2022, my wife came down with a fever and tested positive with home test kit.
By this time, we were confident in our approach and upped all of her doses of Zinc, D, C, Quercitin, NAC, and started her on Ivermectin, and also did the same for myself because I expected to catch it from her.
She was feeling 90% improved in 72 hours, just as I began to get sick and developed fever. I was 90% better in 24 hours, I assume because I had a three day jump with treatment.
In our circle of freinds and family, and freinds of family, we have seen a huge increase of an array of illnesses of the vaccinated in last few months.
2 strokes, 1 death from heart failure, 1 sudden onset of arythmia, 4 with various heart rithym irregularities, and a few more that just seem to be going to the doctor due to unexplained, and un diagnosed issues of different kinds.
Keep in mind, these were freinds that were at so called “increased risk” because of prior health issues.
My son, who is a fire/medic, said he gets a lot of overtime, because so many vaccinated coworkers are calling in sick. My son is unvaccinated and is exposed constantly, never been sick.
These idiot researchers should be studying people like him, rather than pushing this dangerous shot on a “one size fits all” basis to everyone over 6 months of age.
I had it 3 times. Unjabbed. Only was bad once with terrible headaches. Never complications. Always improved by quercetin zinc D. Ivermectin and saline neti pot with bad bout. Pretty solidly immune now but for me, zinc is very effective. Each time, took 3 weeks to feel 100%.
Sorry to hear about her experiences. I’ve got two friends in their 60’s who are all aboard the vax train (4 shots each) and each have had COVID 3 times. There’s a lot about human biology and immune response that we don’t know, but it certainly appears some folks are unfortunately much more prone to illness.
You sailboat is too big for sciencing The Science.
And get a new wife, too.
😄. No longer mine. We lived aboard 40 years ago. A later owner got in touch from New Bern.
I thought so.
If you get too much coviditis, call The Police!
I've also had covid twice. Omicron both times, about 6 months apart. The second time was extremely mild.....only about 12 hours of symptoms. I used to think that durable immunity was a thing, but now I know better.
LOL. Well if durable immunity means you can still get it but it’s milder every time I suppose we could live with that.
Coronaviruses have been around forever as seasonal cold. They mutate rapidly & eventually you’ll get it again is my take.
No one that I know who has had Covid was given a definitive answer as to which version it was ( other than very early in 2020, when it was a new disease).
I appreciate very much our Substack warriors and COVID Scientists and MD's that are helping us along the way - no matter how dire their predictions. Despite saying that - I am left so unsettled by articles like this. It keeps me up at night - so worried. I am praying that Geert's prognostications do not come to light. Thank you Mary Beth. This is a tough read. I appreciate that you provided some balance. I am finding it impossible to have any faith in modern medicine anymore.
Yes, even when they disagree there is great value in the discussion. We're in uncharted territory with mRNA injections. No one knows exactly how people, with the variations of health and lifestyle among them, will react to viruses after this. We'll know more in a few months but in the meantime, do all you can to improve your chances of health and keep your mind calm. Chronic fear and anxiety will drive disease by interfering with the immune system. The past can't be changed but we can be proactive about our future.
You said it. Reading this is unsettling, even though we already know what's coming.
Very well written, sourced and explained! I've heard lots of his interviews, read, re-read (then read again) his work. I can tell his sincerity and I take his word very seriously...perhaps the universe will take care of the virus itself but I have to say, Geert warned us about things like avian flu, monkey pox, polio and other weird abnormalities happening as a result of mass vaxxing. I wasn't sure at the time but go back and look at what he said, months before everyone else and he's been accurate.
Will this catastrophe rear its ugly viral head?...Don't know but I do know that I'm listening to Geert very carefully and respect, appreciate his work and am planning ahead. He is not working for any company, group, or selling a book and has everything to lose. He actually does all of his own research himself and checks everything out before he speaks. In other words, he is doing his homework and like Jessica Rose, he does the actually scientific research. His track record has been better than everyone else in virology, and just like we value Marik, Kory, Lawrie, Weinstein and Kirsch for their expertise in their respective fields, I have the utmost respect and admiration for Geert. If the virus mutations don't manifest exactly as he predicted, I will thank God for the mercy and thank Geert for having the courage to speak up and prepare me. See one of his interviews 6 months ago and judge for yourself https://youtu.be/F530dxcB6_s and Here is another newer one https://thenewamerican.com/dr-geert-vanden-bossche-covid-infection-disease-to-aggravate-in-vaccinated/
I too have followed Geert and agree with all you have said. It fills me with dread and it is very hard to believe but so far, he has been correct in his predictions, only as he admits, the timing may have been off at times. I’m presently watching people I love being diagnosed with heart problems, cancers, strokes etc. and have heard of more people that I know dying suddenly or after a short illness in these last months than in any other time in my life (69 yrs)!
I’m praying that this is a ‘first’ that it will not happen as he predicts but at the same time, trying to prepare if it does. 🙏😢
I agree with you. The omni timing prediction was off but then this is a virus circulating around the world with many variables so ETA is secondary to me. Its like trying to predict a hurricane with 100% accuracy when no one knows mother natures intent....we can only get 80-90% that its coming just not sure of exact cone of location. I don't like bad news either or end of times warnings either and I'm old enough to have seen many in my time. I too thought it was over and he just had some data points that changed and we were out of the woods, but then I saw all the respiratory illness at childrens hospitals, weird abnormalities in the livestock world, polio, MP, cancer rates rocketing along with other immune conditions worsening in highly vaxxed countries and remembered what he said. Like I said, I give him utmost respect and take it seriously because he does the peer reviewed homework himself to connect the dots, has the street creed, both as a vet and virologist to know what he's talking about, is NOT a flamethrower looking for headlines or benefiting financially like a Scott Gottlieb and others. Watch his facial expressions on his interviews...you can see his pain when he says what he says. He believes what his research is saying and this isn't binary, its more nuanced as its a virus moving around the world thru air. Even if he's 70% right and a new virus is not apocalyptic, it still means lots of pain and thats good enough for me to take heed. On top of that the more they try and censor him, that too signals the other side is afraid of him. Think about it....no one censors the crazy man on the street yelling the end is near...they let them hang themselves with their own rope so to speak. Everyone we follow whose been censored must have a point we should consider for if they are truly crazy...no one would dare to shut them up. Buckle up just in case
if some respected scientist predicts that a specific asteroid will crash on earth and destroy it, I never would think his calculations are wrong. I think that NOBODY ELSE MADE THE NUMBERS (connected the dots) and worked to evaluate the risks of a human conducted viral catastrophe.
Geer didn't say there is nothing to do. He is recommending ivm and hcq to kill of the virus. The FLCCC protocol says the same (plus vit d, zinc, etc). Someone is also suggesting 2 days fasting once infected to starve off the virus. What everyone agrees is no more shots.
Mary Beth Pfeiffer (MBF) did indeed interview me about my opinion on the evolution of the pandemic. Although I’ve learned a lot about mainstream journalists lately (she used to be one of them but has, in the meantime, retired), I was still naïve enough to not have asked her in advance about her intentions. It was only when she started pressuring me with text messages to read, as soon as possible, her first draft, that I realized she wanted to contrast my viewpoints to those of other scientists in order “to add some balance and perspective” to mine, as she put it. Unfortunately, none of the other scientists and medical doctors she interviewed are knowledgeable in this field. None of them has in-depth experience in virology, immunology, let alone vaccinology.
Some of the interviewees even go so far as to believe that more deadly viruses will not spread because this would prevent them from surviving and that, therefore, more infectious and harmless viruses (like the first Omicron variants) would always outcompete more harmful variants. Of course, one should know better as viruses have no brains and hence, no strategy. Rather than relying on the “cleverness” of the virus, these scientists should look at what is currently happening with avian influenza virus, for example. The harsh realities we’re currently facing with avian flu virus will hopefully show them how a highly infectious virus has become increasingly lethal to the host population and help them change their mind. Others simply labeled my genuine concern as scaremongering, without any further explanation. I don’t know whether this is very helpful. Even though Omicron has been rather mild so far, they seem to be completely unaware of how the virus is evolving behind the curtains.
Evolutionary viral dynamics in host populations are determined by the complex interplay between viral infectiousness and the immune response of the host population, an interplay which is not understood by the people MBF interviewed. I shared with MBF that I am always open to a scientific debate and critiques, provided they come from people who can scientifically justify their reasoning instead of making blanket statements. That’s why I ultimately referred MBF to John Heathco. John is the opposite example of a phenomenon the medical and scientific community is currently suffering from: Intellectual laziness. Many colleagues receive my detailed scientific explanations supporting my predictions, but they prefer to rely on their old beliefs rather than read my articles. John is one of the very few exceptions. Although he’s neither a medical doctor nor trained in Life Sciences, he has a very critical mind and spent time and energy to understand my insights and ask the right questions. When it comes to understanding the evolutionary dynamics of this pandemic, I therefore consider him much more knowledgeable than many frontline fighters who spend more and more time on criticizing the system but don’t understand that this battle can never, in any case, be won by manmade interventions.
Sharing various viewpoints of those who have no experience with pandemics and the complex virological and immunological intricacies involved is only raising more needless confusion and questions about the current narrative. We are highly in need of journalists who understand the science. MBF clearly does not. She is more interested in meeting the deadline for a new article than in assuring the accuracy of its content. Whichever scientists will be proven right or wrong doesn’t matter for her reputation, as her article lends credibility to both.
It is true that my scientific analysis does not cast a bright light on the outcome of this pandemic. That’s definitely also the reason why I completely disapprove and did not authorize MBF to publish pictures of me smiling in a context of sobering predictions. MBF never asked permission to publicize photos of me in an article. Instead, she asked if she could make a photo just as a “souvenir”, which I approved. Since I detected several flaws in MBF’s wording of my statements, I had agreed to double-check the draft she sent, but clearly told her that I would need some more time as I was on a busy travel schedule. And that, in case she couldn’t wait, I would not give her permission to quote me and publish the article unless she would refrain from publishing photos or footage, and explicitly specify that the statements she would be attributing to me were not my own but were her words, put in my mouth which had not been verified by me. All of this is clearly documented in our exchanges on social media. Unfortunately, being trained and having worked too long in the mainstream media, MBF went on and shamelessly ignored my comments and published her article before I had even finished reading the draft she sent.
You are my intellectual hero, how much I enjoy the intricacies of science, and you are serving the whole mankind, in many baby steps and some huge steps, wise lessons.SUPERB pandemic logic lessons. No one can refute you, because is logic which speaks by your mouth.
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Vaccine injury is now being hidden within long covid figures. Most, but not all, long covid sufferers are vaccinated and are even persuaded to get booster shots to ease long covid symptoms. So we cannot differentiate between long covid and vaccine injury.
Vagus nerve stimulation might help with long covid. I'll try to write an article on it soon, have been meaning to.
Definitely a vagus nerve connection with me (see my attached article), but I am guessing that stimulation is not going to be enough. I have read one article that talked about the vagus nerve having ACE2 receptors to which the spike protein is able to attach, and from there spread to all the organ systems in the body. I think that is what happened to me (article attached). But I have been looking for physical interventions with little success. I read one article about B12 feeding the vagus nerve but nothing else was mentioned, and nothing about removing the spike from the ACE2 receptors of the vagus nerve. Somehow I doubt that, in this case, stimulation alone is enough. The B12 is controlling the nighttime neuropathy in my legs that came on after covid, so for that alone I will continue taking it.
Also since covid, my flight/fight response has gone through the roof, with huge adrenaline dumps at the merest thought of bloody injury or hypodermic needles. I also read somewhere that there is no point putting your foot on the brakes (the parasympathetic system) if you still have your foot on the accelerator (the sympathetic system). Meaning I have to somehow slow these involuntary adrenaline dumps before there is any point in working on the vagus nerve.
I will value what you have to say in relation to long covid. I know the vagus nerve is heavily implicated all round, just not sure how to solve it.
My understanding has moved on from where it was a few months back, before I realised I had long covid, but this article explains how I came to understand how significant the vagus nerve was for my bout of covid.
https://christinekent.substack.com/p/the-vagus-nerve-and-the-bug
I don't have long covid but long other-stuff. 15 minutes of vagus nerve stimulation with a TENS unit daily has helped a lot. FYI, I think I might have a viral infection in my vagus nerve. Electrical stimulation doesn't just work emotionally, it might kill off germs. I just demonstrated the TENS unit in a yoga class I taught. I'll cut the video out and post it on my Substack in the next few days.
I am unvaxxed and had a mild form of LC (anosmia and fatigue but fortunately no nervous system problems) following (presumably) Delta, from which I fully recovered after about 6 months. This is what I did: lost a few pounds to get to my ideal healthy weight, took multivitamins, probiotics, nattokinase, quercetin, olive leaf extract, NAC, fish oil, moderate exercise (yoga and walking), extra sleep, fully wholefood diet, cut out all my vices especially alcohol and sugar. I can't say whether those things helped or I just got lucky. I am in my 50s and am in great shape now. I also had omicron later, virtually asymptomatic, and recovered in 2 days with no LC. Actually everyone I know with LC is also recovered (the milder cases) or improving (the more severe ones) - one person with severe, long-lasting LC has had anticoagulant therapy plus various herbal supplements - again it's impossible to tell what helped but she is 90% better. I hope this helps and best wishes for your recovery.
You have probably already looked, but have you tried Dr. Kory’s Ling Covid services online?
Un-vaccinated are the only ones who'll escape this.
This we already know, but reading this, the scale of this damage, is sickening.
Thanks for putting all this info together so expertly. The more information one has, the better one can plan and manage. I appreciate all of the links.
A great article made easy to follow. Thank you.
Was following early on and when I first heard the vaccine might be pushing the virus to mutate, I thought how living organisms want to live and those that are successful are very small and can mutate much more rapidly than might our immune system. I thought trying to kill a virus in the way that was done may make it fight back, so to speak. Not a scientist, and know but little. We've been defended in our own human biomes that contain so many other living organisms inside our bodies and those are so closely connected to healthy soils and our immune systems. Healthy soils are our first defender against foreign and natural viral pathogens. But we've put murdering toxic chemicals on our soils so they no longer work to aid us. Why would our bodies need the Spike protein of a GOF virus, unless and indeed it was created in a lab to kill the protections our bodies are built with. So many died not because of the virus, but because of a virus that could take advantage of our poor diet, the cokeacolas of the world, of too much sugar and not enough greens from fully healthy soils, where Ivermectin came from. God bless all the organisms in healthy soils and may god direct those who grow for us and the world with the knowledge they need that their governments deny. As a rebel farmer said, "I do not need to feed the world. I need to feed my community." If you consider your community the whole world and you want to save it, all our farmers must fight against an idea about feeding the world poisoned food that will not help their bodies resist anything unleashed on the world. The point here is that soils that use tons of input are not healthy, do not contain the nutrients we need to bolster our immune systems and protect us from what is being unleashed on us now by whatever means and for whatever reasons.
Just did a little searching and found this from Ethical Skeptic, October 18th.
"The BQ.1 and BQ.1.1 variants appeared inside Nowcast, just as was rumored.
What they did not tell you, was that the arrival of this rise in cases - is commensurate with a 22% rise in positivity among those \/'d less than 3 months ago.
4% LOSS in positivity among the UN-\/."
Link to tweet: https://tinyurl.com/mu9x5az2
Pathologists in Germany have now determined definitively that it is the body's massive immune response to the injected spike-protein production machine via the jabs that is killing hundreds of thousands of people. There is now a predicted slow die-off of virtually anyone who was vaccinated by the same mechanisms of cellular destruction. Two of the most recent presentations can be seen here:
https://www.bitchute.com/video/pjUaAZEdgJ4C/
https://live.childrenshealthdefense.org/shows/chd-friday-roundtable?eType=EmailBlastContent&eId=8838b200-a569-4cb8-b008-5d52cb59968d
My experience...I am a 64 year old healthy and fit male. I contracted COVID, presumably Delta in Aug 2021. Hit me for about 8 days with low grade fever, mild upper respiratory symptoms, some warping of taste and severe fatigue. I took ivermectin, hydroxychloroquine, Quercetin, zinc, D, C. The sickness was very similar to when I got mono in my early 30’s. Less of a hammer than times where I got the flu, but I haven’t had the flu in at least 10 years. In fact, it just seems like I don’t get sick anymore. Recovery was quick after the fever lifted.
My wife then got hit, presumably with Omicron in Jan 22 after flying on a plane. She was down for the count a shorter duration with very bad headache and high fatigue. I actually slept in the same bed with her. Result for me? Maybe felt like I was fighting something off for a 24 hr period and then nothing. I continue to take Quercetin, 5000 IU D, 10000 IU C and zinc religiously, daily. If everyone took care of their intake and has ivermectin and HCQ on hand, this would indeed be over.
I have slowly come around. Just a big DoD experiment, quite successful. A nano gel neer do well...
Since the vaccines fail so spectacularly within weeks, may be we can argue it puts very little pressure on the virus to mutate ...
The non-neutralizing antibodies induced by the mRNA vaccines do persist and are even boosted by the immune system each time a person is confronted with reinfection. Since transmission is not prevented, and since the virus has become so infectious, there are millions of previously vaccinated people being reinfected, possibly asymptomatically, that are presenting the same immunity picture to the virus (again, involving those non-neutralizing antibodies). All of these people are hosting the random mutations that always take place during virus reproduction within our cells. Chances are, a random mutation will eventually overcome the current immunity vaccinees have to severe omicron, and then be transmitted to another previously vaccinated person presenting the same immunity picture, and then to another, and so on, until the commonly circulating omicron becomes both more infectious AND more virulent.